hey all, i've solved the issue, after being sent down a rabid hole, hehe!, fired the parts cannon, hehe!, new power supply and motherboard, for a video issue, hehe!, some sites for PC HELP can be like a car repair shop, hehe!, perhaps the comments from the admin. who was helping me(?), no info=no help, my time will be spent on people who appreciate free help, demanded i STOP playing with my machine in an effort to find the solution, at 66 years old, father of 4, papa to 3, i felt like a child who got caught touching daddies tools hehe! sorry about thr rant, or as i see it the experiance!, after i replaced the motherboard and installed the board software, checked bios access and every thing worked great!, then i installed the video drivers for the rizin 7 5700g from amd and the issue was back, had installed the old motherboard in a new case for further testing with another rizin 7 5700g and found the same issue, removed the software from amd from both machines and used other software instead and no more issues at all on either pc, hope this help some one with the same issue! thanks for your help!